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MKM's avatar

Call me autistic, but I seemingly have a *need* for precision in the use of terminology, defining our terms explicitly, and then calling things what they are relative to the explicitly offered definitions. So thank you, D.L., for this essay laying out definitions for fascism, pondering whether there are viable alternatives to fascism, and starting to grapple with what the alternatives might look like.

Particularly notable to me was how you pointed out that one of the mechanisms by which an oppressive system can persist is by convincing those trapped in that system to hate themselves (or some scapegoat) rather than the system itself. Well said. I can well, well, *well* identify with spinning one's wheels theologically, hating oneself all the while, trying to ****make**** what is arguably the worst news ever into good news. I did exactly that for so very many years. I did it by ceaseless striving, being at war with myself. All I had ever known, all I had ever been taught, was violence. Violence against god? Oh, no, of course never that. But violence against the self? Wonderful. Gold star. Way to go. Now you're gettin' it.

I also resonated with this quote:

Mussolini, similar to many members of the Republican Party in the US, seemed to think that if he called his framework a democracy then people would believe it was one.

Just because a politician labels some policy initiative as consistent with democracy or labels some nation as being a democracy does not necessarily make it so. What is the *definition of* a democracy, I ask. Does the initiative or nation conform to the agreed upon definition? If yes, then great. If not, then we've got a problem, don't we?

Similarly, just because a theologian labels some deity they have described as "loving" does not necessarily mean that is so. What, exactly, is the definition of "love" or "loving," I ask. If love is patient and kind and does not keep a record of wrongs, then the Christian deity is anything but loving. What is patient and kind about commanding the committing of atrocities such as genocide? What is patient and kind about condoning slavery? What is patient and kind about stoning people for breaking some rule? And how is it that sending someone to be tortured for all eternity in hell after they die in retribution for their failure to fawn and bow and scrape and sell out their values so as to replace themself so fully and completely they are transformed into someone totally different than who they were born as and who can "willingly" [sic] submit themselves to some unverifiable authority figure, how is sending someone to be tortured for their failure to do that not keeping a record of "wrongs"?

What is fascism? What is democracy? What is love? Whom or what is it permissible to hate? Whom or what are we called to love? On what basis? What is the actual argument?

Thank you for focusing our attention on definitions. And wrestling with the questions of how should we then live. I get a lot out of reading what you write, and this post is no exception. Thank you for who you are and what you do!

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Luke Bolduan's avatar

What I struggle with is responding to/interacting with my parents, who on so many levels are so kind, caring, friendly and think critically; then as soon as it turns into religion/political thinking all that goes out the window and it's just close minded hate and inability to question. How did they manage to impart the values into me when I was younger of critical thinking, helping those around you, etc. Yet also support fascists and hate the oppressed? They've also experienced so much religious trauma (being ostracized for calling out fraud, abuse) yet they still can only attend white evangelical churches. They've been hurt so much by this religion and system, yet this is still the only way to God and if you aren't like them, you're going to hell to burn forever. These inherent contradiction upsets me so much, especially because they get so close sometimes to breaking through.

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