Oh my! This episode! Im going to have to listen to it again because there was soooo much to absorb! I’ve always struggled with a lot of embodiment coaching because I tend to find a trail of harm behind the coaches. As someone who is probably neurodivergent, lives with autoimmune issues, and chronic pain/health the idea of embodiment didn’t feel right. Many days I feel like my body betrays me so I have to work to just feel neutral about her. The idea of dancing around with my sisters in the wilderness naked and having a Instagram full of artistic nude/semi nude pictures and being obsessed with sex does not appeal or even accessibility. But her perspective on embodiment find very interesting and something I’d like to dig into.
I also immediately clicked on her list of Atypical autism traits immediately and almost cried because of how much I related to it. Finally words to connect to my experience!
ok but whyyyyyy is this comment cracking me up! I am definitely not THAT kind of embodiment/deconstructing instagram person myself and also try to stay far away from that! I think this is why disabled theologians and ethicists have to be the ones leading the way. otherwise it excludes so many people from getting in touch with their physical selves.
Yes!! I wanted to thank you especially for having a disabled theologian on. As a disabled person myself, this all clicks so much more. We DO need them leading the way!!
Please sign me up NOW for any future opportunities to participate in conversations with Heather! I loved everything about this episode!
In addition to the "top five" discussion, the other thing that jumped out at me here was the idea of listening to how my body responds to particular thoughts or experiences. Anyone else here grow up being taught that trusting your own body was the exact opposite of how a Christian ought to respond? Learning to actually listen to my body has been hard work, but knowing that I can trust myself has been incredibly freeing!
YES. this is the essay I am working on for next week but it's hard! I struggle so much even in thinking about memories to remember how my body felt. Because usually my body felt BAD And I was trying so hard to ignore that. Because the body doesn't matter.
Wellll that was powerful! Seriously looking into the training she offers, too (I'm a therapist) - glad Krispin recommends it! Did he compare it to any similar therapy modalities he's used / learned about? By any chance??
I’m a bit late to listening to this, but loved it so much! Does anyone else have trouble understanding what the top 5 experienced of “fully alive” should feel like? I can’t think of one...maybe that speaks to how disconnect my mind/body/spirit/emotions have been my whole life. I can *maybe* think of when my body felt fully alive perhaps (something sensory/thrilling) but my mind/emotions is a different thing and that makes me kinda bummed...it makes me wonder how disconnected from myself I am even now and wondering how to process that.
yes this is how I am as well. I hope to in the future have Heather come and maybe do a workshop with us! For now, I am learning from online Somatic therapists (there is lots of free content out there) and just doing the slow work of therapy/looking back at my life/taking both my pain and my pleasure seriously. I've been surprised by how just doing the slow work of listening to my body has allowed memories to be more clear, if that makes sense? We just need a lot of practice to stop ignoring ourselves (especially if we learned to ignore our anxiety/depression to be Good Christians!)
Wow!! I’ve been thinking on the me Jesus would be question, and it just hit me… Jesus would be WAY fucking kinder to me than I am to myself with all of my personal expectations. Thank you both for this!!
Thanks for the transcript! That's how I best process podcasts :)
Oh gosh the atypical autism traits. I had to laugh at "Hates injustice and hates to be misunderstood; this can incite anger and rage" because I admit I can get very rage-y when this happens!
Oh my! This episode! Im going to have to listen to it again because there was soooo much to absorb! I’ve always struggled with a lot of embodiment coaching because I tend to find a trail of harm behind the coaches. As someone who is probably neurodivergent, lives with autoimmune issues, and chronic pain/health the idea of embodiment didn’t feel right. Many days I feel like my body betrays me so I have to work to just feel neutral about her. The idea of dancing around with my sisters in the wilderness naked and having a Instagram full of artistic nude/semi nude pictures and being obsessed with sex does not appeal or even accessibility. But her perspective on embodiment find very interesting and something I’d like to dig into.
I also immediately clicked on her list of Atypical autism traits immediately and almost cried because of how much I related to it. Finally words to connect to my experience!
Please have her again!!
ok but whyyyyyy is this comment cracking me up! I am definitely not THAT kind of embodiment/deconstructing instagram person myself and also try to stay far away from that! I think this is why disabled theologians and ethicists have to be the ones leading the way. otherwise it excludes so many people from getting in touch with their physical selves.
Yes!! I wanted to thank you especially for having a disabled theologian on. As a disabled person myself, this all clicks so much more. We DO need them leading the way!!
Please sign me up NOW for any future opportunities to participate in conversations with Heather! I loved everything about this episode!
In addition to the "top five" discussion, the other thing that jumped out at me here was the idea of listening to how my body responds to particular thoughts or experiences. Anyone else here grow up being taught that trusting your own body was the exact opposite of how a Christian ought to respond? Learning to actually listen to my body has been hard work, but knowing that I can trust myself has been incredibly freeing!
YES. this is the essay I am working on for next week but it's hard! I struggle so much even in thinking about memories to remember how my body felt. Because usually my body felt BAD And I was trying so hard to ignore that. Because the body doesn't matter.
Yes. Because the flesh is sinful!
Poor flesh. Shoved aside and punished for so long.
Wellll that was powerful! Seriously looking into the training she offers, too (I'm a therapist) - glad Krispin recommends it! Did he compare it to any similar therapy modalities he's used / learned about? By any chance??
I will ask him and get back to you!
This was incredible. I’m still processing it. Thank you, Heather, and thank you, D.L.! I will definitely want to hear more.
I’m a bit late to listening to this, but loved it so much! Does anyone else have trouble understanding what the top 5 experienced of “fully alive” should feel like? I can’t think of one...maybe that speaks to how disconnect my mind/body/spirit/emotions have been my whole life. I can *maybe* think of when my body felt fully alive perhaps (something sensory/thrilling) but my mind/emotions is a different thing and that makes me kinda bummed...it makes me wonder how disconnected from myself I am even now and wondering how to process that.
yes this is how I am as well. I hope to in the future have Heather come and maybe do a workshop with us! For now, I am learning from online Somatic therapists (there is lots of free content out there) and just doing the slow work of therapy/looking back at my life/taking both my pain and my pleasure seriously. I've been surprised by how just doing the slow work of listening to my body has allowed memories to be more clear, if that makes sense? We just need a lot of practice to stop ignoring ourselves (especially if we learned to ignore our anxiety/depression to be Good Christians!)
Wow!! I’ve been thinking on the me Jesus would be question, and it just hit me… Jesus would be WAY fucking kinder to me than I am to myself with all of my personal expectations. Thank you both for this!!
Thanks for the transcript! That's how I best process podcasts :)
Oh gosh the atypical autism traits. I had to laugh at "Hates injustice and hates to be misunderstood; this can incite anger and rage" because I admit I can get very rage-y when this happens!
It’s ok. It’s a bit ridiculous! And YES! I agree about having inclusive spaces! Thank you for introducing her to this community!